The City Of Angels - Who's been, who's going

[Generic Skinhead]

Right on.

BTW nice script Despin.
The last one was good, this one is even better.

[Matt J Heaton]

Good posts.

My view is that you don't get anywhere without taking risks. Maybe only one in a million make it over there. Maybe one in a billion. But as long as there is that one then that is enough. Why shouldn't that one be me/you?

Personally, I am attracted to much more than just the weather and the filmmaking.

[deanl]

Since when do you need a "proper film stock and camera" in order to make a decent film.

Its just another excuse.

If you make a great film, It doesnt matter what format you shot on.

Spoon boy If I gave you a hundred grands worth of camara and film stock and said go shoot a movie. It doesnt mean the finished product is going to be "decent". But you could go a shoot a movie on a crappy vhs camera and it could be great.

If you have the talent it will shine through.

Now if you get out there and show your movie of get enough people to see it. Thats when you get results.

There is too many people out there who believe they are getting no where because there cshooting on video and waiting till they have the budget to shoot on film.

That doesnt matter a great film is a graet film.

If you were sat in an office with the most powerfull producer in hollywood and you showed him the most flashy looking movie ever to be shot on film. But the movie was bad.

Then showed him a dodgy vhs tape with a classic movie on it.

I know which one I would pic.

I read a figure somewhere that said 70% of the films shot in the UK last year never got a cinamatic realease. Now they were shot on film. The reason they never played is because they were bad movies. Sure there are exceptions.

These days there a million people who wanna make movies. I think good on them. But fact is most of there movies are going to be bad. Not everyone is born to be a film maker.

Hand a million people a pad and paper and ask them to draw a masterpiece. Then just look at the results. Some people are born with talent some are not.

Ok im ranting like a mad man now and totaly going of the point. Im sorry I had to get it out of me.

Despin out

[Spoon boy]

Why don't you save that cash your going to spend to go abroad and use it for a film over here.

If you can make a proper, decent film (i.e. using proper film stock and camera) with some media recognition, kudos over here in the U.K, Ireland, Wales, whatever! You should do bloody excellent else where.

It's a struggle over here. Just look at e-bay for film cameras, NONE! what so ever.

But going to America or else where is not going to make you any better at making films.
And you most certainly not going to stand out from the crowd over there because your a majority.
Unless on the off chance that your bloody brilliant.

God knows how many people do what you want to finally do when your over there.

Again this is just my opinion so don't shout at me if you don't like what I say.

Good Luck to all.



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[Spoon boy]

Erm.. you have a way of twisting my words.

Like I said it's just my personal opinion.

Maybe I shouldn?t of said "decent". I didn?t mean that, if you shoot on film you would instantly become the worlds best film maker or the film would be any better then the DV film incarnation, but it certainly helps.

What I mean is that all thoe you?ve made that so called film on DV and everybody raves about it your likely to tenfold that if it was shot on film.

Just look at the bigger festivals, you become much more of a temptation if your using film.


70% of the films shot in the UK last year never got a cinematic release, well they you go if you want to take one Huge risk make a film here.

And these 70% what were they shot on?


[This message has been edited by Spoon boy (edited August 08, 2001).]

[Spoon boy]

"they were shot on film"

whoops sorry I missed that bit.

[nextspielberg]

I agree 100 % with you Spoon boy.

Think about it. Do you expect one of your dv films to be playing in theatres any time soon?

While the big guy's shoot on Anamorphic 35's from Panavision, you have a home video dv camcorder.

Whats the chance of you getting a film shot on a dv camcorder into something like Sundance, Telluride, Toronto?

Next to nothing. There is a much greater chance of you getting your film distributed, accepted into festivals, etc. if you shoot on film.

[deanl]

Hey. What Im saying is its better to be making your movies now on DV. Than to be planning to make a movie in five years time on 35m.

As for getting your film shown at Sundance, Telluride, Toronto. You have just as much chance getting your movie shown on dv as you would if you turned up with a film shot on Film. The amount of people tring to get there movies shown at these "brand named festivals" are massive. Besides 99% of festivals have sections dedictated to movies shot on DV.

Besides I wouldnt want or expect any of the movies Im shooting myself on a low budget shown on the big screen. The movies Im making now are my calling cards. There to show my abilty. Once I have proper financing to pay a proffessional crew and my movie is at the right standard, will I want my movies to be shown to the general public. No one wants to see a movie thats been shot on a consumer dv cam on the big screen. I wouldnt. Even if its the best film in the world. (imagine watching a VHS copy of JAWS blew up two 35m)

Besides I cant see myself ever shooting on 35m I beleive In the next five years we will all be shooting digital.

Film is dead. Yeah it looks nice. We all love it but. We have to make way for modern technology.

Lets see what Episode 2 and Once Upon A Time In Mexico look like. Then we will see what the new digital technology is capable of.

Despin out.

[austintash]

The best thing about L.A. is there are so many young actresses there desperate for their first break (and short of money too) that you'll have no trouble finding willing, nublile young blondes for an extreme anal gang-bang porno. Get one of those Sony VX1000 Mini-DV cams (all the pornos use 'em), one actress, a couple of other "actresses" to act as fluffers, and then about eight to twelve guys. Just make sure the girls are over 18 though; they're not as tight but they are legal (18 is the age consent in the Land of the Fucknuts). And if they're not willing to do arse-candle, lose the uptight bitch and find someone else; there's plenty of 'em out there (get a blowjob out of her first though; just tell her she's going to be famous).

[nextspielberg]

Despin, Film is not dead.

Us filmmakers just laugh at that. While we make the big films on 16MM and 35MM, the little indies keep shooting their home video movies and say film is dead.

Lucas said it himself. He's not planning on shooting anything else on DV. The quality just isn't there. It just doesn't compare to film.

Besides, the studios down in Hollywood have agreements with kodak to use their 35MM film. They've invested millions into 35MM.

No one is going to change to digital.

I hope in 5 years, all the indies will realize that.